Russia of course, could influence the Turkish disposition towards Israel. In fact this is highly likely. Despite apparent Christian Orthodoxy, their alliance with middle eastern countries such as Syria display a strange affiliation with Islamic thinking.
James, perhaps you can help us understand what our Lord meant by Great Tribulation, where He used it. And does that tie in with Paul’s statements of the man of sin being revealed before the day of the Lord, and his being destroyed by the lord at His appearing. I’d be interested in your take and the prior church teachings on that. Also how are we to view Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. (KJV). And
How does this tie in with Daniel 12:9-13, And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
Daniel 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
Daniel 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
Daniel 12:13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days. (KJV)
If you have already written on this just let us know where. Thanks.
Jerry, I used to think that Matthew 24 was talking about tribulation in the Endtime, but now it’s abundantly clear to me Jesus was talking about the destruction of the Temple, Jerusalem, and the killing of the Jews by the Roman army in 70 A.D. Certain Scriptures in Matthew 24 I didn’t understand before are now clearer than ever!
Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Matthew 24:34
Messiah berated the Jewish leaders (as recorded in Matthew 23) and He proclaimed that all of the righteous blood would be poured out on them, on that generation, saying “Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.” Matthew 23:36
A Biblical generation is 40 years. Messiah taught the Olivet Discourse in 31 A.D. The siege of Jerusalem, and the desolation of the Jews and the temple, took place in 70 A.D.; so indeed, it did happen in their generation. I used to think Matthew 24:34 was referring to the generation since the establishment of Israel in 1948. Ha ha! What a delusion that was!
But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: Matthew 24:20
The Jewish leaders of Messiah’s day did observe the Sabbath, and they would have closed the gates of the city and prevented anyone from leaving the city on the Sabbath.
For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. Matthew 24:21
If this time of great tribulation took place in the end times, before Messiah returned, then it would make no sense; because there could never be another time of great tribulation.
Messiah is not talking about the number of people who were killed, but the sheer horror of being an unbelieving Jew at the time, and the sheer horror of the scene; as 1.1 million Jews were dead in and around the small city of Jerusalem, with bodies stacked in the city, with blood all over the place, with crucified bodies filling the trees around Jerusalem, and with wild animals feasting on their flesh.
About the verses in Daniel 12, the “time of the end” began with the New Testament. The world has experienced 2000 years of Endtime so far. The Apostle John clearly says so:
1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
Sorry about my last comment. I failed to finish it.
Please someone help me to determine if the following verses are what the KJV always said. They seem very strange to me. Here are the two passages: 1Chronicles 29:1 and 29:19, both of which call the Temple a palace in the KJV. 1Chron 11:5,7 refers to Zion as a castle! And 1 Kings 14:10; 16:11. I won’t even include the words of those two verses in this comment. Please look them up and let me know if the King James Bible always said these things. I really do need someone’s help to sort through this. Thanks!
Hello TJ. I think you are referring to the Mandela Effect. I consider it another psyop akin to Flat Earth. CIA or some other spooks are trying to mess with the minds of Bible believing Christians!
1 Chronicles 29:1 ¶Furthermore David the king said unto all the congregation, Solomon my son, whom alone God hath chosen, is yet young and tender, and the work is great: for the palace is not for man, but for the LORD God.
19 And give unto Solomon my son a perfect heart, to keep thy commandments, thy testimonies, and thy statutes, and to do all these things, and to build the palace, for the which I have made provision.
According to the context of those verses, the palace is referring to the temple which Solomon built.
1 Chronicles 11:5 And the inhabitants of Jebus said to David, Thou shalt not come hither. Nevertheless David took the castle of Zion, which is the city of David.
7 And David dwelt in the castle…
According to the context of those verses, the castle is referring to the entire old city of Jerusalem which was encompassed by a wall.
I don’t see anything in 1 Kings 14:16, and 16:11 that has anything to do with that. But yes, the KJV always said that and CERN did NOT change it! God’s Word is unchangeable!!! Psalms 119:89 For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.
If you believe in a spinnging globe..then you don’t believe the bible anyway.
psalms 104:5, Josh 10:12, Genesis 1, ajob 37:10, job 37:18, Job 38:30, psalms 19:4-6, 2 Esdras 6:41, Enoch 78:11, job 38:4, Is 40:22, Is 66:1 to name a few verses that prove NASA lies.
so frustrating to read comments like that..especially by someone sharing stuff about authenticity.of scripture.
you instant discredit yourself when you deny scripture so clear.
biblical cosmology exlpains a dome with an cirlce icewall. zero denying it without 100% discrediting /denying scripture
I am NOT denying the Bible, I am denying your FALSE INTERPRETATION of the Bible!!!
The fact of the matter is that the CIA created The Flat Earth theory so that people would be distracted from the moon landing hoax fraud! There is overwhelming evidence constituting proof that the Earth is a globe in fact those who say that the Bible says is flat are LIARS ! Satan is trying to inculcate as many people into the liar group as possible. The Bible says very clearly that God is enthroned above the circle of the earth and that does not mean above a flat dinner plate.
Hello and blessings to ya. While not a salvation issue flat earth is most definitely not a psyop. Bible clearly explains a enclosed cosmology and stationary earth. Many proofs you can do your self. Sun and moon are very close and just lights as God says. No one knows it all but God tells Job in chapter 38 so if ya know my creation and seen foundations set tell me…to say its a psyop is a discredit to those who are saved from it like atheists and lukewarm and many more. The Lord revealed this to world to see truly wake people up cause end is near. We do not live on a spinning water ball and we are covered by the firmament. God sits on his throne and watches his creation and hes close not distant. Bless you in name of Jesus
Hello Nick. Thank you for your comment but I beg to differ with you. The earth is NOT a spinning water ball. Please see https://www.jamesjpn.net/conspiracy/is-the-earth-a-spinning-ball/
Fact: I live on an island in the Pacific, Guam, and I see beautiful sunsets over the ocean in a western direction regularly. The sun disappears over the water horizon. It does not simply vanish, it is covered by the earth. Geometry tells me this indicates the ocean is curved for it to do that. Half of the earth is illuminated by the sun and half of the earth is not illuminated by the sun at ALL times. This is my observation. NASA didn’t tell me that, my knowledge of geometry tells me that. To deny that is to say geometry is false mathematics. I sincerely hope you don’t think so. In Jesus’ Name I pray!
12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us (Ps. 103 – KJV 34). Even metaphorically, this scripture is accurate scientifically. If we travel east, we’ll never go west and if we travel west, we will never go east. But, if we travel north we’ll eventually go south and vice versa. Why? We live on a globe and our sins , once forgiven, will always be eternally displaced from us. Moreover: 7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing (Job 26 – KJV). Job, arguably the oldest book in the Bible, mentions what we now can observe, that the Earth sits in space hanging “upon nothing”, but staying in orbit by the/its gravitational relationship with the sun and the other objects in our solar system. Also, 34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. 35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left (Luke 17 – KJV) In the preceding three verses, Jesus mentions scenarios that happen in the nighttime and daytime. For that to occur at the same time, it would need to be dark in on one part of the earth as well as light on another part of the earth as we can currently observe occurring in our world today. In each instance that I shared, the analogies are dependent upon the accuracy of the “science”. We observe and live on a globe that “spins” on its axis giving us our day-night cycle, while revolving around the sun, giving us our yearly time frame. There is more that could be internally referenced showing how the Bible’s scientific accuracy before “science” could catch up to discover the phenomenon mentioned. Who better to know about the science and the spiritual relationships that are being described than the ONE, Jesus the CHRIST, our CREATOR and GOD. Cordially, D.R. Esssary
the theory of flat earth assumes a smaller sun and moon, both of the same size and emitting their own light.
example for this is when testing the temperature with an infrared thermometer at night. I’ve seen it.
when expose to the light of the moon the temperature is up to 1-1.5celsius colder than in the shadow. while we should observe the opposite if it was reflecting the light of the sun. moreover, there are many instances of seeing stars through what should be the moon when it is out and the sky is still clear.
Also it defies the laws of physics. water, whatever it’s container, always find its level. Sea level.
Gravity in my opinion is the god of scientism. The science that works only on paper. Everything can. e explained with electromagnetism, density and buoyancy.
as for the sun setting over the horizon. that is a matter of perspective/line of sight. Our eyes can only see up to 3miles away on a flat and straight distance. nowadays we have technology that allows us to see further than that and many experiment have been done to prove that building/structures/boat that should be hundreds of feet below the horizon can actually be visible with the proper lense to zoom.
and if we believe the Bible to be the word of God, therefore the ultimate truth, we must conclude that the firmament is a solid barrier [raqia] that divides the waters [space/heaven] from above from the waters from below. [sheol]. Also that the earth is fixed on its foundation/stationary. that the sun and the moon are within the firmament land are luminaries .
there are just about 200 bible verse that seem to depict a flat earth.
is the Word of God the truth? Are we misinterpreting it all? or could it be that the ruler of this world/Satan uses science to draw people away from God by pushing that the earth is billions of years old[contrary to thr bible] that life came from non life, that we were not made in God’s image but rather we evolved from a bacteria, to a fish to a dinosaur to monkey to now be civilized man?
how can you trust your own thoughts if it’s all just random sequence kf chemicals?
it’s clear that there is design to it all and maybe all of this did not fool you, but look around, it fooled many and a lot of young teenagers are atheists now.
this is a big rabbit hole and it took me years before I even considered looking into it and then it took me about 2 years of almost constant research and study to realize, I don’t have all the answers, but all the space community worldwide is lying. Most without their own knowledge.
space was always a fascinating topic for me. I mean who would not be mesmerized, we are a speck of dust in infinite who arrived to this point by chance of circumstances. All the “pictures” the theories, black hole, wormhole , quantum physics other galaxies and planets.
it makes human seem insignificant. like we have no ultimate purpose and it makes us questions what’s out there more than why, what and how are we here.
the devil was often referred to as sun god. people used to worship the sun and today they still do with the sun being the CENTER of our universe/galaxy when in fact we are.
the sun goes around the earth not the other way around.
have you ever looked at flight paths? some of them makes no sense on a glove.
how come people have circumnavigated from east to west, west to east but never north to south or south to north?
magnetic north is the north pole. with the 4 rivers like in Genesis. Look at the Mercator map.
Gerard Mercator was a renowned cartographer. He was knows for His precision.
And the adventure of Admiral Byrd at the south pole which was followed with an extensive military operation, the creation of Nasa and the antarctic treaty
I and look-up all the “666” in the globe theory. it’s almost funny. I could keep on going for hours
Sam, I have a whole lot to say to you. I wrote it all down on my other website. Please see the articles on https://www.jamesjpn.net/tag/flat-earth-theory/ and read them with an open mind. Thank you. God bless you.
I’m sorry, James, I love you but there are too many things in Daniel 9:24-27 that were not fulfilled in Jesus’ day or even the Early Church. Not the least of which were the things Jesus himself said in Matthew 24 et. al. about those verses. No 7-year holy covenant, no Second Coming then, gospel of the kingdom preached to all nations.
The Bible is not written for such obscure decoding, it is straightforwardly written, just like Genesis One.
My friend, I am basing my views on what Bible teachers used to teach about Daniel 9:27 and Matthew 24 before the 19th century. Believe it or not Daniel 9:27 was considered by all Protestant Bible scholars to be a Messianic prophecy fulfilled by Jesus Christ and not by some future Antichrist!!! There are many articles on this website that talk about it in detail. For starters, please see http://www.jamesjpn.net/eschatology/the-70th-week-of-daniel-delusion/
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An indispensable Awesome series. I Often refer people to it.
But generally I don’t think those that get it realise what a treasure they have their hands on and don’t put in the time to get into it.
This is a real leg up for the truth seeker to a wide range of knowledge and topics presented in an orderly way from which you can then as you need dig into the background further.
Massive amounts of hard ground work has been done and served up herein in a very well presented manner.
It is not milk, but it is very palatable meat.
If one is not aware of and across this material whether they agree in detail or not…they are still not fit to say they are enlightened on the affairs we see before us in the world.
This series should be compulsory for any that do not already have good exposure to the topics within that seeks to lead opinion on such matters.
this is so true, sometimes listening to some music can hypnotize you and make you fantasize about being in heaven literally. It’s scary stuff, usually happens when one is going through traumatizing events, abuse and such, music offers a gateway escape into another world.
live peaceably with all men yes, and have respect, however, what about when our LORD JESUS, cleansed the temple, and said to the pharisees, “you are of your father, the devil” lately, we see kenneth copeland, leading the charge to bring all the daughters, back to mother harlot, the old roman catholic church. he claims that us protestants were wrong to stand up against the papists,wonder what my brothers and sisters in the true church think about that?
If you look in the preface of a modern Bible, you will probably find a reference to the Septuagint, or LXX for short. The translators of all modern Bibles, including the New King James, use the Septuagint along with other texts in translating the Bible. They claim that the Septuagint contains true readings not found in the preserved Hebrew text. Thus they give it great importance. But what is the Septuagint? Here’s how the legend goes:
The Septuagint is claimed to have been translated between 285-246 BC during the reign of Ptolemy II Philadelphus of Alexandria, Egypt. His librarian, supposedly Demetrius of Phalerum, persuaded Philadelphus to get a copy of the Hebrew Scriptures. Then the Scriptures (at least Genesis to Deuteronomy) were translated into the Greek language for the Alexandrian Jews. This part of the story comes from early church historian Eusebius (260-339 AD). Scholars then claim that Jesus and His apostles used this Greek Bible instead of the preserved Hebrew text.
Did Jesus Use the Septuagint?
Authors David W. Daniels and Jack McElroy answer questions critics ask about the King James Bible.
The Letter of Aristeas
The whole argument that the Hebrew scriptures were translated into Greek before the time of Christ rests upon a single document. All other historical evidence supporting the argument either quotes or references this single letter.
In this so-called Letter of Aristeas, the writer presents himself as a close confidant of king Philadelphus. He claims that he persuaded Eleazar, the high priest, to send with him 72 scholars from Jerusalem to Alexandria, Egypt. There they would translate the Hebrew Scriptures into Greek, forming what we now call the Septuagint.
Jewish historian Josephus, Jewish mystic Philo (both first century AD) and others add to the story. Some say the 72 were shut in separate cells and “miraculously” wrote each of their versions word-for-word the same. They say that this proves “divine inspiration” of the entire Septuagint.
Thus, the Septuagint is claimed to exist at the time of Jesus and the apostles, and that they quoted from it instead of the preserved Hebrew text. This story has been passed around for centuries. But is it the truth? Was this Septuagint really written before the earthly ministry of the Lord Jesus and His apostles? Did they quote it? Was it really inspired by God? And if the story is a fake, why make up the story? Is there another reason to get people to use (or believe in) the Septuagint?
The verifiable facts:
The writer of this letter, Aristeas, claims to have been a Greek court official during the time of Philadelphus’ reign. He claims to have been sent by Demetrius to request the best scholars of Israel to bring a copy of the Hebrew scriptures to Alexandria to start the Septuagint translation project. He even goes so far as to give names of Septuagint scholars, yet many of the names he gives are from the Maccabean era, some 75 years too late. Many of them are Greek names, definitely not the names of Hebrew scholars. There are many other evidences that this letter is from a different time period, and is thus a fake. The writer is lying about his identity.
The supposed “librarian,” Demetrius of Phalerum (ca. 345-283) served in the court of Ptolemy Soter. Demetrius was never the librarian under Philadelphus.
The letter quotes the king telling Demetrius and the translators, when they arrived, how wonderful it was that they came on the anniversary of his “naval victory over Antigonus” (Aristeas 7:14). But the only such recorded Egyptian naval victory occurred many years after Demetrius death, so the letter is a fraud!
The Letter of Aristeas is a hoax that doesn’t even fit the time period in which it claims to have been written. And since the other ancient writers merely add to this story, it is clear that the story itself of a pre-Christian Septuagint is a fraud. Even critical textual scholars admit that the letter is a hoax. Yet they persist in quoting the Letter of Aristeas as proof of the existence of the Septuagint before Christ.
New Testament evidence
Many scholars claim that Christ and his apostles used the Septuagint, preferring it above the preserved Hebrew text found in the temple and synagogues. But if the Greek Septuagint was the Bible Jesus used, he would not have said,
“For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.” (Matthew 5:18)
Why would Jesus not have said this? Because the jot is a Hebrew letter, and the tittle is a small mark to distinguish between Hebrew letters. If Jesus used the Greek Septuagint, His scriptures would not have contained the jot and tittle. He obviously used the Hebrew scriptures!
In addition, Jesus only mentioned the scripture text in two ways, (1) “The Law and the Prophets” and (2) “The Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms”:
“And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.” Luke 24:44
The Hebrews divide their Bible into three parts: the Law, the Prophets and the Writings. Jesus clearly referred to this. The Septuagint had no such division. In fact, it contains Apocryphal books interspersed throughout the Old Testament. The sequence is so hopelessly mixed up that Jesus could not possibly have been referring to it!
Who is pushing the Septuagint?
So why do we still hear the story? Why do people give it a second thought? Are there other reasons why they still try to use the Septuagint to find “original readings” that were supposedly “lost from the Hebrew”?.
Roman Catholics Need It
According to the Roman Catholic Douay Bible:
“…the Septuagint, the Greek translation from the original Hebrew, and which contained all the writings now found in the Douay version, as it is called, was the version used by the Saviour and his Apostles and by the Church from her infancy, and translated into Latin, known under the title of Latin Vulgate, and ever recognized as the true version of the written word of God” —Preface,1914 edition.
So Roman Catholics desperately want the Septuagint to be genuine —even inspired! You see, the so-called Septuagint is where they got the Apocrypha (books that are not inspired and have no place in our Bibles). If the Septuagint goes, then the Apocrypha goes with it!
Ecumenical Textual Critics Need It
The supposed text of the Septuagint is found today only in certain manuscripts. The main ones are: Codex Sinaiticus (Aleph); Codex Vaticanus (B); and Codex Alexandrinus (A). That’s right. The Alexandrian manuscripts are the very texts we call the Septuagint!
In his Introduction to The Septuagint with Apocrypha: Greek and English (1851) Sir Lancelot Brenton describes how some critical scholars have attempted to call the Septuagint by its real name, the Alexandrian Text, but the name never stuck. Thus he admits that they are one and the same.
So we have textual critics who believe desperately in the 45 Alexandrian manuscripts (against more than 5,000 copies favoring the Textus Receptus). They use these to translate all modern New Testaments. But these Alexandrian manuscripts also include the Septuagint Old Testament (with the Apocrypha). They have fallen for a trap.
Catholics now argue the following: If you accept the Alexandrian text (which modern scholars use as the basis for all new translations) for your New Testament, then you also have to accept the rest of the Alexandrian text (Septuagint) , which includes the Apocrypha. What we are seeing is the development of an ecumenical Bible, including the Apocrypha. Some versions have already gone this way. For many Protestants, all roads are truly leading to Rome.
We Don’t Need It.
But do we Christians need the Alexandrian manuscripts? Not at all! For the Old Testament we have the Preserved Words of God in the Hebrew Masoretic text. For the New Testament we have the 5,000-plus manuscripts in Greek, plus the many early translations spread abroad, to witness to the actual words of Christ and His apostles.
So the Septuagint story is a hoax. It was not written before Christ; so it was not used by Jesus or His apostles. It is the only set of manuscripts to include the Apocrypha mixed in with the books of the Bible, so as to justify the Roman Catholic inclusion of them in their Bibles. And it is just those same, perverted Alexandrian codices —the same ones that mess up the New Testament —dressed up in pretty packaging.
The differences between the 1599 Geneva Bible and the 1611 King James Version of the Bible are apparent. The King James Version of the Bible eliminated the marginal notes that had been a popular feature for those who used them as a study guide in the 1599 Geneva Bible. Furthermore, the Old Testament from the 1560 and 1599 Geneva Bible was translated directly from the Greek Old Testament and the Hebrew Septuagint scriptures, while the 1611 King James Version of the Bible was compiled from previous English translations of the Old Testament.
The Order of Solomon – Solomon, the famous Biblical King of Israel, is sometimes referred to as a Grand Master of the Illuminati even though he lived centuries before the first official Grand Master, Pythagoras.
Hi James, thanks for your response. The roman army no doubt did destroy the temple in 70 A.D. But clearly that was just an intermediate fulfilment of Matthew 24:15, Luke 21:20. The disciples asked Jesus “what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?” The main sign Jesus gave was When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be, Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. Clearly Jesus did not return in 70 A.D. But was pointing us to a later time when the ultimate fulfilment of “The Abomination Of Desolation” takes place under the Antichrist as told by Daniel the prophet in chapter 11:31 “And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate” he then tells us that at that time Chapter 12 “there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time, And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. These were the events Jesus was talking about answering the disciples question “what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?” It couldn’t possible have happened when the romans came because Jesus did not return in the clouds as he said and there was no resurrection, the romans destroying the temple was clearly not the ultimate fulfilment.
I feel that it is so important that we all understand just what the Abomination of desolation is. Praise Jesus. DANIEL 9 – 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the SACRIFICE and the OBLATION to cease, and for the overspreading of ABOMINATIONS he shall make it DESOLATE, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the DESOLATE.
Daniel,
Sorry to say you missed the point of the article. The abomination of desolation was the Roman Army destroying Jerusalem and the Temple. Compare these two Scriptures;
Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place,
Which is further defined in Luke 21:20 as the Roman armies that desolated Jerusalem and the Temple of Solomon:
Luke 21:20 ¶And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
Jesus Christ, not Antichrist, fulfilled Daniel 9:27. Please see
http://whotfetw.com/blog/?p=17819 link is one of the best proofs that eclipses aren’t caused in the way we have been conditioned to think and more, as I have witnessed much of what is shown in these videos and had my own questions.
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